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A 38-minute video call between two craftsmen, 7,000 miles apart.
One trained Harrison Ford. One crafts the Kirin Whip in Shaolin country.
This is the story of how they met.
For over half a century, Anthony De Longis has been Hollywood's most sought-after weapons master. When a film needs a whip to look real — to crack with cinematic authenticity — Anthony is the name producers call.
He trained Harrison Ford for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman in Batman Returns. He appears on-screen in Jurassic World, The Mask of Zorro, The Musketeer, Fearless / 霍元甲 (opposite Jet Li), and dozens more. He is currently filming NEVO in the role of "Bill."
He created the De Longis Rolling Loop System — a methodology refined over 40 years that treats the bullwhip as a "super-sonic telescoping blade." As he puts it: "I do Tai Chi. I do the Tai Chi of the whip. I float."
Every significant conversation has a timeline. Here is ours, reconstructed from real TikTok messages, real emails, and one real 38-minute video call.
Transcribed directly from the recording of our video call, March 25, 2026. Not a paid endorsement. Not a prepared PR quote. A spontaneous reaction from one of the world's most accomplished whip masters, examining a Kirin Whip in real time.
Before the technical discussion makes sense, it helps to understand what makes these two whips fundamentally different instruments. Same purpose — break the sound barrier. Different philosophies for getting there.
What follows is transcribed directly from the 38-minute recorded call — condensed and edited for readability. These are their actual words, captured live on camera. One speaks English. The other speaks Mandarin. Both speak the language of craft.

"One of the biggest problems — see, when I try to balance this whip on top of the handle, gravity pulls it down to a sharp 90-degree angle. So when I hold it up, it falls below the handle. I want the whip to get above this — to travel from above, not from below."
"I'm wondering if you could have a sleeve, or a collar, or maybe you weld the first few links — something that makes it come from handle to chain and holds that up just a little."
"Does that make sense?"
"I understand your point exactly. But — this is where the Chinese and Western designs fundamentally differ."
"For our Kirin Whip, the handle and chain need to stay disconnected. No sleeve. No rigid collar. The gap is intentional, because it gives the chain full freedom of movement — the exact freedom required to perform Chinese flow-art techniques: the sharp direction changes, the body wraps, the high-speed pivots you see our top practitioners execute."
"If we rigidify that connection, the chain binds. The high-difficulty stunts become impossible."

"Thank you for the clarification and perspective. I'll keep these points in mind when I'm exploring the Kirin Whip."
This is the kind of insight you can only get from the person who built it.

"See mine — this is thin, thin, thin, thin. Then all of a sudden yours gets very big. The cracker on your Kirin Whip is much thicker than it needs to be."
"The thinner the fall, the thinner the popper, the faster it goes. The thicker it is, it slows down — unless I use a lot of power."
"To me, noise is the least of it. What I want is precision, accuracy, and consistency. I do Tai Chi. I do the Tai Chi of the whip. I float. On a candle, I will take out the candle — not just make noise. I go stab."
"In China, our top practitioners all use this wider ribbon cracker for intricate flow tricks. The drag is a feature, not a bug."
"The ribbon gives us excellent control over the whip and very high precision. Yes, it has more wind resistance — but that wind resistance is what stabilizes the heavy metal chain. A thin round cracker is usually only used on very heavy whips — 10-lb and up — because on those, you need the tip to survive extreme impact."
"Your whips have less mass, so a thin cracker works. Our whips have more power and momentum — we need a larger cracker."

"Yes. And I have a new bullwhip student who just received one of your slightly heavier Kirin Whips with the ribbon cracker — and I quite like it. I want to explore how it affects pin-point target accuracy."
"Different focus. Same craft."

"There's another thing. Where your chain meets your whip head — you're using a metal connector ring to attach them directly. Every time you connect metal to braided material through a rigid ring, there's a 'hiccup' in the energy transfer. A break in the smooth flow from handle to tip."
"Find a way to make that transition smoother. Maybe tie the Fall directly onto the last open chain link. Remove the metal connector. Any rigid junction is energy being lost."
"This feedback is gold."
"You're right. We've been using a metal connector ring between chain and whip head — and I can feel the energy hiccup you described. I'll prototype a direct-cord connection. We'll remove the ring entirely."
Taking Anthony's feedback directly, every Kirin Whip we now craft uses a woven-cord connection between chain and whip head — eliminating the metal connector ring entirely. The result: smoother energy transfer, less tactile shock, and more fluid motion from handle to tip. This is what it means to have a craftsman's feedback loop between Hollywood and Dengfeng.
Yile recorded a clip of the 38-minute Zoom call from his phone — and saved every email Anthony sent during their technical exchange. Real moments, real artifacts.
Yile filmed this short clip on his phone during the live Zoom session with Anthony. You can see the Hollywood whip master holding the Kirin Whip on camera — exactly as it happened, no edits.
Before the Zoom call, Anthony emailed a detailed technical breakdown — covering handle length, pivoting grip, tapering links, the fall, and the cracker. Yile ran every paragraph through a translator. This is the email itself.
After the 38-minute call, Yile made two choices — and both were deliberate. Every detail of what he sent was designed around what he had learned about Anthony in those 38 minutes.

The Dragon Bone is Yile's most iconic chain design — the chain most associated with the brand, and the one most practitioners recognize. If Anthony was going to hold one Kirin Whip, it had to be this one.
The tapered stainless-steel chain transitions in 8 stages from handle to tip — precisely the "tapering down, smaller and smaller" geometry that made Anthony say: "The best I've ever seen in a metal whip."

On the call, Anthony said it again and again: "I prefer lighter. As small as possible." So Yile picked the Double-Edge 双棱 — the lightest Kirin Whip we make, at just 1.3 lb (650g).
The Double-Edge's unique twin-rail chain profile allows for a feather-light build without sacrificing snap. Paired with a hand-woven cowhide handle — matching the soft grip Anthony pivots with — this is the whip built entirely around Anthony's preference.
Alongside the two Kirin Whips, Yile added something extra: an ultra-soft woven Dyneema whip head, built with a traditional "reverse eight-strand" weave (倒八股编法).
This is the whip head used by China's top-tier masters. The extreme softness creates massive wind resistance — exactly the kind of drag Anthony was questioning in Topic 02. Not everyone enjoys this feel; many Chinese practitioners avoid it because of how much it slows the whip down.
But if you want to understand how the highest-level Chinese whipmasters approach control over raw speed — this is the whip head they reach for. Yile included it so Anthony could feel that extreme for himself.
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